Why don't we use pain compliance in our Aikido?
by Heather Gawlick I've seen so many times on the Internet and heard so many people in person argue that you can defeat any opponent using pain compliance. They say if it isn't working, you just need to hurt the other person more. Then it will work. Pain compliance uses the philosophy of performing joint locks or other holds using so much force and pressure the other person is physically hurt. The assumption is because of pain, uke will stop attacking, take a fall, or otherwise do what you want in order to get you to stop injuring them. I see so many problems with this philosophy. Where do I begin? First off, no one can invoke pain in every other person out there every time. Sure, a skilled practitioner can hit hard and fast enough to inflict pain on a large number of people. But, relying on pain over off-balance seems foolish to me. I've met plenty of Judoka whose wrists are like tree trunks. There's no way to reliably create torque in such a fashion as to cause them pain. If you did, many of these same fellows would laugh at your gaping jaw as they tossed you over their shoulder because they simply don't care if they are injured. There are also those who are so incredibly flexible pain isn't inflicted until the joint is close to breaking. (Just ask my student we nicknamed "Bendy Guy.") Pain is not a reliable weapon or method of control. Secondly, while some people are very skilled at hurting others in this fashion, I just don't understand why you would want to do this repeatedly in class to someone you claim is your friend. At the very least, you are causing repetitive stress injuries in your partners and classmates. All it takes is one careless or over-zealous mistake to permanently hurt someone. Why would you do that to a friend? Conversely, what kind of a friend treats you like this class after class? It goes against everything budo and comradery stand for. Aikido is famous for being an art of compassion, so why taint it with injuring one another? Ueshiba is quoted as saying, "To injure an opponent is to injure yourself. To control aggression without inflicting injury is the Art of Peace." This should remain our goal. Lastly, it seems to me those who discuss this tactic are so focused on inflicting pain, they've missed sight of the bigger picture and the real power of Aikido. True Aikido moves start with taking the opponent's balance. If you don't have the balance, there is no reason for uke to do anything except continue to attack you. If you have the balance, they become putty in your hands and you have complete control over their whole body - not just one joint or limb. It's much more powerful to throw the complete person to the earth than to simply break a joint. Watch a few videos of Karl Geis and you'll see what I mean. The whole philosophy of pain compliance seems very shortsighted. So, please be kind to each other. Throw the pain compliance out the window. It's unnecessary. Throw your whole partner instead. It's so much more fun to watch them launch across the room whilst neither partner feels a thing. At the end of the class, no one is hurt physically or emotionally. Aikido should be about skills and fun - not bullying.
17 Comments
2/5/2016 08:14:52 am
I agree totally! Not only is pain compliance unnecessary, it is counter productive! Wonderful that you practice without pain!
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Heather
2/5/2016 08:58:42 am
Thanks! I was really lucky to fall into the Aikido group I did full of wonderful people who are amazingly skilled practitioners who don't believe in injuring one another. Otherwise, I wouldn't have stayed as long as I have.
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Moose
2/5/2016 05:05:59 pm
I think that you are really on target. I know people who do 1500 push ups daily, we are not going to over power them. pain is their life. I don't know about you, but I have better things to do with my life than all of those push ups and learning to cause someone pain.
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Heather
2/5/2016 05:12:34 pm
Agreed. Plus, you're really good at tossing people on their heads using your pinky while not spilling your drink. I miss you, man!
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maddog moss
2/7/2016 10:29:29 am
also, people on some drugs like pcp don't register pain-- better to drop them with off-balance or (ILLEGAL most places) choke them out.
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Heather
2/7/2016 11:13:33 am
No doubt!
Heather
2/7/2016 11:16:43 am
No doubt!
Dean
2/6/2016 12:05:40 am
There are many types of pain that can be inflicted on a would be attacker. There is one particular type that was demonstrated on me by a seasoned Gies Aikidoka when I attempted to demonstrate that "those soft, slow techniques wouldn't work against real attacks." After participating in my first Aikido class, I was shown what I believe to be the only kick used by tori in Aikido.
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Heather
2/6/2016 09:31:10 am
Thank you Dean, for your well told and candid story. Karl told me his version of it years ago. I guess he hadn't exaggerated any part of it after all. He was definitely not a man to tangle with!
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Kitty
10/6/2016 07:06:22 am
I have never been very strong physically, so inflicting pain (an early attempt in my martial arts career) has rarely worked for me in Aikido. Only by first taking uke's balance can I effectively protect myself. AND, the more I experience off-balance, the more I improve my Aikido. Plus, it is more fun to "ride the rollercoaster".
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Heather
1/24/2017 06:48:38 am
Hi Kitty,
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Matthew Dear
2/3/2017 05:50:23 pm
Yep couldn't agree more....trying to do a painful nikyo, sankyo or kote gaeshi on someone that have tree trunk forearms aint gonna work.
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Geoff
2/13/2017 11:08:57 am
The other downside of pain compliance is that, if you hurt or frighten someone, there will be a reaction, and you cannot predict what that reaction will be! You don't want any more unknowns lobbed in to an already stressful situation. Keep away from pain compliance, which sometimes won't work anyway (strong, flexible, pumped on drugs, adrenaline, highly focused, etc often negate the pain anyway) and stick to breaking down the structure gently.
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Heather
2/27/2017 07:28:22 pm
Excellent point!
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Heather
2/27/2017 07:33:04 pm
Exactly!
Geoff
2/28/2017 05:26:31 am
I am engaged in some work myself to try to get all our joint locks working as balance breaks, kuzushi, without the need for pain. The only pain is if they choose to try to push through. Nikyo, for example, takes them to their knees by sweeping down on the arm whilst stepping backwards - they try to stand up, they stand up into nikyo but, otherwise, they won't feel it. I tend to teach not gaeshi as more of a sumi otoshi - the wrist twist is only there if they try to avoid the fall.
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Heather
3/3/2017 07:22:47 am
Awesome! I find it helps if you think of the body as a whole when looking for the off-balance rather than focusing on just the joint lock you have your hands on.
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